Lumix GH4, Olympus 75mm f/1.8 lens, f1.8, 1/5000s, ISO 200, JPG straight from camera.
I’m working on a post that will explain why I’m in the market to replace my D800. In the meantime, I’ve been utilizing LensRental.com’s excellent service to try out some of the hot cameras on the market right now. This week I was lucky enough to get my hands on the brand new Lumix GH4. I’m pretty sure I was even the first one to use this item. It’s hard to tell, though, because everything I get from LensRentals is always in pristine condition. In fact, my favorite thing about renting from them is that the camera sensors are always spotless, and the lenses are always clean and flawless (that’s more than I can say for my own equipment).
You may have heard that the GH4 is Panasonic’s hot new Micro 4/3 camera body. If so, you probably heard that it also shoots 4K video (in fact, you may have heard all this on the recent Photofocus Podcast). If you’re like most of us out there, however, you’re probably wondering what I’m talking about and why I’m considering a camera that’s not a Canon or a Nikon, and you’re probably wondering what the heck 4K video is, too.
Nikon and Canon watch out!
Mirrorless is an unfortunate description for these cameras–they are basically the same as a Digital Single Lens Reflex camera, but they lack the mirror that reflexes when you press the shutter button. Calling them Micro 4/3 (four thirds) is little better; why is it named for the ratio of one side to the other? It shoots an image that is 4 units on one side and 3 units on the other, whereas DSLR’s shoot an image 2 units by 3 units. This is the same shape that the most common medium format cameras have used for decades. However, Mirrorless and Micro 4/3 (or MFT) are the names we’re stuck with for now.
The huge advantage to the mirrorless setup is that the viewfinder is an LCD screen and what you see is exactly how your image will appear–the exact exposure you see is what the camera will record. Yep, no more guessing if the light meter is right or ruining a whole set of images because you bumped a setting and didn’t realize it. You get to chimp as you shoot, and that is marvelous (although, if you mount a flash trigger it automatically switches to allow you to see what you’re focussing on since the exposure with flash will be nothing like the what you see before the flash fires; this is good, and far superior to my experience with the Sony a7r).
Nikon and Canon cameras allow you to use live view with similar results (on some bodies) but you have to look at the large LCD, and if you hold your camera out in front of you at a wedding and look at the screen to compose your picture I will personally fly down and confiscate your camera. Nothing screams “inexperienced newbie” like using the back LCD, which is also the least stable position for making sharp images. But with the live viewfinder you get that WYSIWYG advantage without giving yourself away. (Caveats: Yes, Nikon has the 1 system, but I’m not interested in an even smaller sensor, and Canon’s M body was intriguing, but huge lenses on a small body are not better; this is a whole different form factor and it’s not a compromise).
One more dig on Canon and Nikon: this camera is fully weather sealed…including that articulating screen that the big boys claim is so difficult to weather proof.
Two sneaky advantages for Pros
Pro’s know when they press the shutter button that the picture will be perfect, right? Well, with this live viewfinder they definitely do, but one huge advantage is that you can review the images in the viewfinder, too. every function that happens on the large LCD can be done inside the viewfinder. That means that I can review images and do my chimping without my client seeing that I’m staring at the LCD screen. Also, viewing the images in bright sunlight is easy in the viewfinder–my Hoodman Hood Loupe may find its way to CraigsList.
Although I said above that using the large LCD screen on a DSLR to compose a picture is unprofessional looking, using the fully articulating flip out LCD on the GH4 is a really powerful way to compose. Think waste level compositions, and also 90 degree candid shooting–looking straight down at the LCD, while the camera is pointing sideways at your subjects. I’ve been getting terrific pictures with kids this way. So I can compose sneakily and also sneak peeks at my pictures without alerting my clients and subjects.
Did I say sneaky? The GH4 has a silent mode which records images without making any noise. At all. Totally silent. Golf, movie sets, weddings, sleeping infants, private investigators…everybody will love this.
Can I use it on a pro shoot?
I used this camera this week on three shoots for my best clients. The image from the top of this post is one of the portraits we made on the side during a shoot–it’s the art director. This image is straight from the camera with no processing at all. The jpgs are the best I’ve seen. look at the smooth transition of colors in the skin from very light to very dark. There’s color there all the way across without losing the subtle changes in color and tone. Also, this is shot wide open on the incredible Olympus 75mm f/1.8 lens. WHAT?!?! You can use Olympus lenses on a Panasonic camera? Yep, all MFT lenses work on all MFT bodies, which is pure genius. If Canon L lenses are so good, don’t you think Canon would want to sell them to Nikon users, too? Not so. In this system, however, any lens is up for grabs, and this 75mm is definitely on my wish list. Look how sharp it is even wide open!
A concern I’ve thought of is showing up at a job with a small camera like this and wondering what the client will think. Firstly, Giulio Sciorio is one pro who has been using MFT cameras for big shoots for several years and he’s never had a problem. My clients had no problem, either: they hired me, not my camera. Secondly, I think I’d say something like, “Oh, yes, those big cameras are cool–they’re the same style my grandfather used. This, however, is the latest technology. Nothing but the best for your images.”
How were the controls? Was it easy to use?
I’ve been teaching beginner photographers for five years, and I’ve used every model of Canon and Nikon DSLR since 2009. I can pick up any of those cameras and get the settings to where I want so I can shoot the way I like. Autofocus is the most important setting I need to adjust. The GH4 fit right in, and I was shooting comfortably within minutes of loading an SD card. I can adjust the focus point with ease and the other controls are all very intuitive. It’s a pleasant mix of Canon and Nikon styles, and I think anyone coming from either of those platforms would figure it out pretty quickly.
The large LCD is also a touch screen. I’ve been annoyed with touch screens on the Rebels I’ve used–it always seemed that they were sensitive in the wrong ways and they blacked out every time I waved my hand across the screen to indicate something to a student because the viewfinder sensor was too sensitive and blacked out the screen for shooting. This screen is just about perfect. It’s useful when I want it, but I can use the buttons I’m familiar with instead. The sensitivity is good, too, and I don’t have trouble with the black outs. I love folding the screen away and knowing that it won’t get scratched if I bump into something.
There are two controls I love on this camera: the top mounted control dials. The one on the right is pretty standard for switching between Manual, Aperture Priority, Shutter Speed Priority, etc. But it’s got a little button in the center that locks the dial. Press it once and the button pops up and the dial spins normally, clicking into place for each option. When you’ve got the one you want, just press the button again and it locks the dial from spinning. This is simple and intuitive and nicely done.
Even better is the left side dial. It’s got the continuous shooting modes, Single Shot, Continuous Shooting (12 frames per second!!!), and that’s pretty normal. It’s also got the Timer setting. Where it stands out is that the auto bracketing setting is also on this dial–just set it and whatever settings you’ve previously chosen are loaded ready to go. Awesome! No sub menus or dials. But it gets better: the last setting is for the Intervalometer. Just dial it up and press the shutter and the last settings you used for making your time lapse images will be set in motion. This is a huge time saver and really makes it simple to set up a time lapse interval. Two thumbs up way up.
Now, I’ve only had it a few days, and there are a few things that I haven’t gotten the hang of, yet, but overall I think any experienced DSLR user would feel at home quickly. My only real complaint with the controls is that some of the buttons on the outside of the camera aren’t very positive–sometimes it’s hard to tell if you’ve pressed it because it doesn’t feel like it moved. After a fews days’ use, it doesn’t bother me, but I was surprised at first.
Dedicated HDR switch, eh?
You know we love HDR around here. Here’s how cool that dedicated HDR switch is. Sam and I were driving around the county looking for pictures and happened upon this one just as the light was about to be gone. Had I been using my D800, I would have had to press and hold the bracket button, and then used both the front and rear dials to adjust the number of brackets and how far apart they should be (then after I shot, I’d have to do the same in reverse, or, more likely, forget that I set them and shoot a few pictures in the wrong mode). But with the GH4 I simply turned one dial and started shooting. My settings are almost always the same for HDR, so this dial is awesome. I was in time for the light.
Okay, it’s professional…but why would I switch?
The images appear to be every bit as good as my DSLRs. However, this GH4 is only 16 megapixels. That means the images are less than half as large as my D800 images…and still larger than my D700 images were, and I made lovely 30×40 prints from that! It takes a lot of time to process my D800 images; it takes significantly less time to process the 16 megapixel images through my finishing workflow. That’s time I could spend reading Photofocus, or shooting more pictures, or playing with my family. Plus, it means buying new hard drives half as frequently. Speed of workflow is one reason to switch.
Reason number two? everything about MFT is smaller, lighter, and cheaper. And it’s not just a little lighter: the GH4 with the 70-200mm f/2.8 equivalent lens feels lighter than my DSLR 70-200mm f/2.8 lens without the body. It’s soooooo much lighter. Wearing the D800 with grip and 70-200mm on my Spider Holster is tiresome; wearing the same on the GH4 is unnoticeable. My DSLR kit takes up a huge bag that barely fits the carryon regulations for airplanes (and far exceeds the weight limits), but the same kit for MFT fits in my laptop bag. Seriously. My petite female students often complain about using the 24-70mm or 70-200mm lenses all day at a wedding; this kit is ideal for cutting weight without cutting quality.
Did I mention that everything costs significantly less, too? The Nikon 70-200mm f/2.8 is $2400. The Panasonic 35-100mm f/2.8 (which is the same field of view as the 70-200mm) is just $1400 and is smaller and lighter than a can of Coke. Oh, and the lenses all seem to be 58mm filter threads, and those are a lot cheaper than 77mm filters for DSLRs. I could sell my whole DSLR kit and replace it with MFT gear and have money left over to take a trip to China and make great pictures.
Holy moly! I almost forgot: many of the lenses are made by Leica and are exceptional. You think L lenses are nice? You haven’t even lived until you’ve tried the Leica glass.
Reason number four to switch: WiFi
I’ve been using EyeFi cards for years to beam images from my camera to my iPad. Clients love this, and it’s a valuable tool to make sure we got the shot. However, it’s always buggy and sometimes won’t work at all. The GH4 has a built in wireless transmitter that you simply connect your iPad or phone to, launch the free app, and you’re connected to the camera. But not only can you see the images on the device, you can also control the camera from the device. All the shooting settings can be changed and you see the live view feed from the camera, and it’s awesome. I used this with Sam the other night while light painting his car. My tripod was low to the ground and it was chilly out. But I got to stand upright and make exposure changes and trigger the camera and even use the autofocus. It was very comfortable and the app worked flawlessly. I’ve used the app on both my iPhone and iPad.
By the way, battery life has been really good. I shot all morning, all afternoon and in the evening, then went out with Sam for the long exposure stuff and used WiFi the whole time and the battery was only down one third on the indicator. Not bad at all.
Landscapes…Adults…Long exposures…how about real life? How about family portraits?
For the first part of my career all I photographed was families. I still photograph families–daily for my own. My camera must perform well enough to focus and react quickly to fast moving kids and impatient parents. And it’s got to work with strobes, too. Well, I photographed this little family in the setting sun and the GH4 was perfect.
I followed kids around and made pictures on the fly and it kept up just fine. Better still, seeing live the image I was making allowed me to change my shutter speed significantly between shots to let the right amount of light in even as I was changing from facing the sun to back lit to side lit. This is a feature with immeasurable benefits. Also, there’s something about the large LCD that makes it easier to see so my clients can review a few images now and again.
In these images, the sun is low and filtered through some thin clouds which many photographers think is the perfect light for portraits. I find it boring. There’s little depth and it looks like everyone else’s flat light portraits. In these, I’ve placed a speedlight on a stand behind and to the right of the subjects. This gives just a little rim light that adds depth and a little hair sheen. I used the cheapest possible setup: a YongNuo Speedlight with Cowboy Studio triggers. The trigger sits in the hot shoe on the camera, and the speedlight sits atop a receiver which triggers the flash. This simple setup works on all cameras with a hot shoe, and the GH4 functioned really swell. I wasn’t sure what the sync speed was so I kept it below 1/200. Now I know it’ll sync at 1/250, which is faster than any Canon or Nikon DSLR under $2500.
I’ve been using the 75mm to chase kids around the park today, and the images look great, but it had a hard time keeping focus on the swings. I used the 35-100mm f/2.8 to photograph a little league soccer game, however, and it performed really well. I’ll have to experiment more with it more to know it’s full limits. In the meantime, I had great success using manual focus and the focus peaking feature which shows an outline in the viewfinder on things that are in focus. It’s really cool, and makes it possible to actually use manual focus on a digital camera.
It may not have the focussing system of a D4s or 1DX, but it’s also under $1,800, and it still shoots 12 frames per second. Oh, it also has minimum shutter speed of 60 seconds, compared to 30 seconds on all DSLRs. I think that’s great.
I talked to the guys at Panasonic…
I was fortunate enough to meet a few engineers and a marketing director for Panasonic from Japan the other day at a workshop Giulio was teaching in Portland. These guys flew over from Japan to talk to several users about the cameras and what suggestions and feedback they have. What? A camera company flew three guys from the mother company in Japan to several places in America just to get feedback? Yeah, it’s really cool. I was honored to be invited to come and spend some time with them, too. They were genuinely interested in what I want in a camera and how I use it and what’s important to my profession. I may be easily moved, but this gesture has really been a big influence as I’ve considered this camera. Who wouldn’t want to support a company that is actively seeking to make a better product? It’s nice to work with the guys in second or third place because they really try hard to keep your business.
We talked about many things, but three things I think would be cool in a camera are an integrated 39mm Arca Swiss style tripod mount, a corner mounted viewfinder (like the GX-7) so my big nose doesn’t interfere with the back of the camera, and, of course, more medium format options (like a retro looking twin lens reflex–who’s with me, huh?)
The Downsides
There are just a couple of things holding me back a little bit. Firstly, all the images you see here are jpgs from the camera. I’ve done a little finishing (except on those that say otherwise) and then exported a new jpg from Lightroom. Normally, I prefer to start with the RAW files, but Lightroom doesn’t recognize the RAWs from this camera, yet. I found out the hard way, too, and was almost forced to use the in camera processing to generate jpgs for my client. Actually, the built in RAW processing is quite good, and I liked using it with the touch screen. Fortunately, Giulio Scoirio pointed me towards Silky Pix, which was able to read the RAWs and exported jpgs for me. It was super slow, though, so I can’t recommend it unless you’re in a bind (it may be included with the camera, but since I rented it, I didn’t get that disc). Nevertheless, the jpgs are really good. I’m pleased to tell you also that the monochrome settings include color filters so you can shoot very fine black and white images, or even process them in the camera after capture.
The other downside is also tentative. Look closely at the light painting image above and you’ll see that it’s pretty noisy. I haven’t corrected that in any way in this image for demonstration purposes. Usually I work from the RAW image (see above) and I also did not use any in camera long exposure noise reduction (which usually takes as long as the original exposure to process). I shot at higher ISO’s in low light and they look really good. I think this noise may be a result of the super long exposure. I’ll need to do more trials to know for sure, and also see the RAW images.
Conclusion
The images are great. The interface is intuitive and quick and out of the way. The features are valuable, not bloating. The weight is half. The price is half. The cost of keeping heavy DSLRs will tell over time on your body and your hard drive. I think it’s really a winner. Head over to LensRentals and try it out for yourself. I think you’ll find yourself wondering why you’ve got two heavy and expensive DSLR’s in the other room.
Levi,
My Canon 7D syncs at 1/250 not 1/200 and it was $1900. Not to nitpick, but….
Also you lose a little bit of bokeh with the smaller sensor.
Yes, you lose a little bokeh, but did you SEE the images in this post?! He made some very lovely shallow depth of field photographs with this camera and a fast lens. That 75mm f/1.8 can render some very nice, soft backgrounds.
Yes, you lose a bit of DoF, but there are options available to regain it. Voigtländer (Cosina) makes 3 sensational native M4/3 lenses all at f0.95. 17.5mm, 25mm and a 42.5mm (equivalent 35mm, 50mm and 85mm). They’re all-metal and glass, fully manual lenses, with aperture rings that can be set either stepped or stepless for video. They have beautiful image and build quality. Another advantage to the M4/3 system is because of the short flange-to-sensor distance, you have the ability to adapt lenses from virtually any other camera system in existence. Yes, the lenses will all be fully manual, but… Read more »
For absolutely amazing BOKEH.
The Panasonic Leica 42.5 f/1.2 DG Nocticron ASPH.
For Micro Four Thirds, I don’t think it gets any better than with this lens.
I shoot Canon and Olympus.
Shot an Orchid, on the Canon with an extension tube ,radio triggers for flash & fill on tripod.
Set up and shoot time was 20 minutes.
Went past the table a while later and thought – what the heck!
Olympus Epl -5 ,21mm extension tube, LED camping lantern.
I prefer the 4/3 The colour ,even shooting Raw,looked better.
These cameras are the future – I use Panasonic prime lenses the 8mm fisheye is amazing.
You say that your 35-100/2.8 represents a 70-200/2.8 in fullframe terms. Sorry, but that is not correct. If you multiply focal length by crop factor of 2 you have to multiply the aperture too. So in fullframe terms you’ve got a 70-200/5.6!
Yes, you lose some depth if field, but f2.8 is still f2.8.
True. However, the sensor size is smaller, so it gathers less light with the f2.8, making it equivalent to f5.6 on a full frame sensor when comparing the total amount of light it gathers.
Nobody cares Oren: The “total amount of light (I)/ gather” is focused down to and across the m43 sensor. The total amount of light “you” gather with a 35mm FF lens is focused undistributed across your ff sensor. the image is still distributed across the sensor area. If i put a ff lens on the “total amount of light gathered” would be wasted falling off the edges of my sensor. f2.8 is still f2.8 exposure wise. Or my hand held incident light meter would ask:” which format are you shooting?”and it doesn’t care. Enough with this equivalence masturbation.As fares dof.… Read more »
wrong. a m4/3 f.2,8 is a f.5,6 in FF terms you have to multiply both the focal length and the apperture.
A MFT F.1,4 = F.2,8
Seems that everybody bougt into the marketing scam :)
I have both the 5D3 and the GH4 and for a give situation at same focal and aperture my shutter is half on the GH4 than on the 5D3 :)
Not possible the actual science of light gathering is always focal length divided by the apatures size over field of view FOV where FOV IS 35mm*1 in FF format. In 35mm terms the F-stop is the focal length divided by the diameter of the lens. For example, a 200mm f/4 lens will be 50mm wide. 200mm/50mm = f/4. But with mFT the FOV IS 35mm*2 so a 100mm f/4 lens will be only 25mm wide 100mm/25mm = f/4 this means the light delivered is still f/4? So you have a smaller sensor to cover so the lens can be smaller… Read more »
Nice right up, and surely a great and advanced camera, although with my array of Canon L Lenses, the Canon M is pretty intriguing.
You have a typo – “waste” level compositions
I’d wait till the next iteration of the Canon M. Compared to the m43 cameras, the M is pretty clunky in terms of responsiveness. Canon does offer a nice pancake lens at least.
Let us know how you like the M after you’ve tried the GH4.
You also have a typo – Nice “right” up
Thanks for the great review! Most reviews have been focused on video, but it’s nice to see a write-up about the stills side of this camera. I’m considering this system along with the Olympus e-m1 and the Fuji x-t1 to replace my Nikon gear.
Nice review! I have the GH3 and have fallen in love with it. Its an amazing tool and image quality is top notch. I can only imagine the GH4 is that much better!
Thanks for adding experience and questions, gang! I’m pleased with the camera, and we are adding them to our studio quiver. Regarding Depth of Field on lenses like the 35-100mm, there are some significant differences from 35mm, and my instinct is that we can’t compare them straight across. Now, I’m not a physicist or an optical engineer, but since these lenses are designed for the smaller sensor there are things to consider that may mean the DOF could be similar to that of a full frame camera with a 70-200mm f/2.8. That’s my feeling after using the camera; the quality… Read more »
Levi,
Did you try noise reduction on the light-painting photo? Just wondering how well it cleans up in LR or other NR software.
light painting photo is killer fabulastico
Nicely rounded article, but just overlooked one important factor (which has also been mentioned above). At 35-100mm f2.8 MTF lens is equal to a 70-200mm f5.6 on full frame if you want the same look to the image. Its is not the same look as f2.8 would be on full frame. Most who want to buy fast f2.8 or faster lenses are looking for great bokeh separation, which will not look the same on the MFT. One could summarise this to say that the MFT simply has greater depth of field for the same f-stop number, but its not as… Read more »
Yep the 70-200mm 2.8 will definitely have less DOF then the 35-100mm 2.8. Same focal length but different look. If you want a look similar to the 70-200mm I’m guessing the 75mm 1.8 is the closet you can get.
I’ve been using the GH3 for a while. Lightroom and Photoshop both recognise the RAW files from the GH3, I imagine that GH4 recognition will happen really soon. I love the GH3. Since I bought the camera my Canon kit has not been out once in 10 months! I also have one of the Lumix compact bodies to use with a couple of their pancake MFT lenses. This is a combination that fits in my pocket. Regarding bokeh. It really comes down to the fast lenses. I get amazing bokeh. Panasonic and Olympus provide some great lenses sub f1:2, but… Read more »
Jerry, the light painting image has no noise reduction from software nor from the camera. This one is just straight up out of camera. Using LR’s color noise reduction takes care of the problem on the jpg, and I suspect the RAW will look even better. Lightroom will have an update for this camera pretty soon, and I can’t wait. In fact, I’m not waiting, I’m getting one shortly.
John, I hear you about the bokeh being different from a full frame lens, and this is because in order to get the same framing we have to either step back or use a shorter focal length both of which increase the apparent depth of field. However, like I said above, I feel that the 100mm f/2.8 is not the same as a 200mm f/5.6. I don’t have math for you on this, but after using it I really think it’s not simple math, and I think the reason is that these lenses are not just repurposed 35mm lenses like… Read more »
I have the GH4 and I am a huge fan. However, I was shocked to find that Adobe Camera Raw does not support it! Everyone has said “Oh, they’ll have an update in a matter of weeks.” Really? Tell that to my clients. Sure there are hoops I can jumps through to workaround this – but I’d sure rather just open RAW files in Lightroom or Camera Raw. For me, this is crippling and means I still grab my Canon cameras for anything important… For the next few week? Months? I understand this may just be the nature of the… Read more »
Just batch process with stand-alone Adobe DNG Converter. No need to wait, and this really isn’t a significant obstacle.
Hi do you have any idea if an external hot shoe mounted flash will fire at the 12fps on a low setting? Thanks! :)
A great write up, thanks for taking the time.
I’ve sold ALL my Canon gear – 5DMarkIII, 1.2L lenses, everything.
Going Micro Four Thirds all the way.
Just loving how light my gear is now and the clarity in my video footage, wow.
On the matter of the “light art” photo above… With the LR update which includes the ability to process raw files from the GH4, I am still unable to remove the noise in my long-exposure shots. I get something very similar to the “light art” photo above. While I think the photo is excellent in artistic terms, the noise is clearly unacceptable – and LR is not taking care of it. I suspect LR is looking for more random patterns. Upon closer inspection of my long-exposure photos, I’ve recognized this noise as “stuck” or “dead” or “hot” pixels because the… Read more »
Just curious if anyone has tested their GH4 on long-exposure shots to see if they have the “stuck” “dead” or “hot” pixel issue like the one visible in the “light art” photo included in this article.
I shot long exposure timelapse and didn’t see any issues.
Thanks for your reply. Can you let me know if you were shooting RAW and looked closely to see if there were any “stuck” pixels? Also, can you confirm that your long-exposure shots were 10 seconds or longer? Thanks again!
Yes Raw
Saw No Stuck Pixels
20-45 second exposures
No In Camera Noise Reduction… all post
Thanks again for confirming. I guess I have simply had very bad luck with the 3 GH4s I have gone through. I suppose I’ll pursue getting it replaced a 4th time.
This is good! My GH3 develops hot pixels in any exposure longer than 10-20 seconds. Ruined a lot of otherwise nice night shots. (It wasn’t just a few pixels, but dozens and dozens. Waaaay to time-consuming to remove all of them.) Next stop, GH4 (or GH5?)
(This got dropped from my previous post above):
The “pixel refresh” does a perfect job of restoring the pixels, but of course this is after the photo has been taken.
Thanks for the comment. Unfortunately, the pixel refresh option is not working for me. My GH4 seems to have no fix for this currently. I’m very concerned and seeking help from Panasonic. I’m on my 3rd replacement unit and the issue is not fixed yet.
Thanks for this great review! I’m wondering which flash trigger/receiver setup you use that works with the GH4? I have a GH4 and a Yongnuo 565ex flash and am looking to purchase a compatible set of transmitter and receiver. Thanks in advance!
Shaheed, I shoot regularly with the Cowboy Studios triggers from Amazon.com. They are very inexpensive, and are simply blind triggers. I’m investigating the speedlights from Panasonic, and I understand Phottix has some good triggers, as well.
i echo shaheed’s request. been researching what trigger/receiver to get and the cowboys sound great, but there are different types and it seems some triggers simply don’t work properly with panasonic, so would love to know the exact spec of yours.
I shoot Canon and Olympus.
Shot an Orchid, on the Canon with an extension tube ,radio triggers for flash & fill on tripod.
Set up and shoot time was 20 minutes.
Went past the table a while later and thought – what the heck!
Olympus Epl -5 ,21mm extension tube, LED camping lantern.
I prefer the 4/3 The colour ,even shooting Raw,looked better.
These cameras are the future – I use Panasonic prime lenses the 8mm fisheye is amazing.
Levi,
My Canon 7D syncs at 1/250 not 1/200 and it was $1900. Not to nitpick, but….
Also you lose a little bit of bokeh with the smaller sensor.
Yes, you lose a little bokeh, but did you SEE the images in this post?! He made some very lovely shallow depth of field photographs with this camera and a fast lens. That 75mm f/1.8 can render some very nice, soft backgrounds.
Yes, you lose a bit of DoF, but there are options available to regain it. Voigtländer (Cosina) makes 3 sensational native M4/3 lenses all at f0.95. 17.5mm, 25mm and a 42.5mm (equivalent 35mm, 50mm and 85mm). They’re all-metal and glass, fully manual lenses, with aperture rings that can be set either stepped or stepless for video. They have beautiful image and build quality. Another advantage to the M4/3 system is because of the short flange-to-sensor distance, you have the ability to adapt lenses from virtually any other camera system in existence. Yes, the lenses will all be fully manual, but… Read more »
For absolutely amazing BOKEH.
The Panasonic Leica 42.5 f/1.2 DG Nocticron ASPH.
For Micro Four Thirds, I don’t think it gets any better than with this lens.
Nice right up, and surely a great and advanced camera, although with my array of Canon L Lenses, the Canon M is pretty intriguing.
You have a typo – “waste” level compositions
I’d wait till the next iteration of the Canon M. Compared to the m43 cameras, the M is pretty clunky in terms of responsiveness. Canon does offer a nice pancake lens at least.
Let us know how you like the M after you’ve tried the GH4.
You also have a typo – Nice “right” up
You say that your 35-100/2.8 represents a 70-200/2.8 in fullframe terms. Sorry, but that is not correct. If you multiply focal length by crop factor of 2 you have to multiply the aperture too. So in fullframe terms you’ve got a 70-200/5.6!
Yes, you lose some depth if field, but f2.8 is still f2.8.
wrong. a m4/3 f.2,8 is a f.5,6 in FF terms you have to multiply both the focal length and the apperture.
A MFT F.1,4 = F.2,8
Seems that everybody bougt into the marketing scam :)
I have both the 5D3 and the GH4 and for a give situation at same focal and aperture my shutter is half on the GH4 than on the 5D3 :)
Not possible the actual science of light gathering is always focal length divided by the apatures size over field of view FOV where FOV IS 35mm*1 in FF format. In 35mm terms the F-stop is the focal length divided by the diameter of the lens. For example, a 200mm f/4 lens will be 50mm wide. 200mm/50mm = f/4. But with mFT the FOV IS 35mm*2 so a 100mm f/4 lens will be only 25mm wide 100mm/25mm = f/4 this means the light delivered is still f/4? So you have a smaller sensor to cover so the lens can be smaller… Read more »
True. However, the sensor size is smaller, so it gathers less light with the f2.8, making it equivalent to f5.6 on a full frame sensor when comparing the total amount of light it gathers.
Nobody cares Oren: The “total amount of light (I)/ gather” is focused down to and across the m43 sensor. The total amount of light “you” gather with a 35mm FF lens is focused undistributed across your ff sensor. the image is still distributed across the sensor area. If i put a ff lens on the “total amount of light gathered” would be wasted falling off the edges of my sensor. f2.8 is still f2.8 exposure wise. Or my hand held incident light meter would ask:” which format are you shooting?”and it doesn’t care. Enough with this equivalence masturbation.As fares dof.… Read more »
Thanks for the great review! Most reviews have been focused on video, but it’s nice to see a write-up about the stills side of this camera. I’m considering this system along with the Olympus e-m1 and the Fuji x-t1 to replace my Nikon gear.
Nice review! I have the GH3 and have fallen in love with it. Its an amazing tool and image quality is top notch. I can only imagine the GH4 is that much better!
Thanks for adding experience and questions, gang! I’m pleased with the camera, and we are adding them to our studio quiver. Regarding Depth of Field on lenses like the 35-100mm, there are some significant differences from 35mm, and my instinct is that we can’t compare them straight across. Now, I’m not a physicist or an optical engineer, but since these lenses are designed for the smaller sensor there are things to consider that may mean the DOF could be similar to that of a full frame camera with a 70-200mm f/2.8. That’s my feeling after using the camera; the quality… Read more »
Levi,
Did you try noise reduction on the light-painting photo? Just wondering how well it cleans up in LR or other NR software.
Jerry, the light painting image has no noise reduction from software nor from the camera. This one is just straight up out of camera. Using LR’s color noise reduction takes care of the problem on the jpg, and I suspect the RAW will look even better. Lightroom will have an update for this camera pretty soon, and I can’t wait. In fact, I’m not waiting, I’m getting one shortly.
Nicely rounded article, but just overlooked one important factor (which has also been mentioned above). At 35-100mm f2.8 MTF lens is equal to a 70-200mm f5.6 on full frame if you want the same look to the image. Its is not the same look as f2.8 would be on full frame. Most who want to buy fast f2.8 or faster lenses are looking for great bokeh separation, which will not look the same on the MFT. One could summarise this to say that the MFT simply has greater depth of field for the same f-stop number, but its not as… Read more »
Yep the 70-200mm 2.8 will definitely have less DOF then the 35-100mm 2.8. Same focal length but different look. If you want a look similar to the 70-200mm I’m guessing the 75mm 1.8 is the closet you can get.
light painting photo is killer fabulastico
I’ve been using the GH3 for a while. Lightroom and Photoshop both recognise the RAW files from the GH3, I imagine that GH4 recognition will happen really soon. I love the GH3. Since I bought the camera my Canon kit has not been out once in 10 months! I also have one of the Lumix compact bodies to use with a couple of their pancake MFT lenses. This is a combination that fits in my pocket. Regarding bokeh. It really comes down to the fast lenses. I get amazing bokeh. Panasonic and Olympus provide some great lenses sub f1:2, but… Read more »
I have the GH4 and I am a huge fan. However, I was shocked to find that Adobe Camera Raw does not support it! Everyone has said “Oh, they’ll have an update in a matter of weeks.” Really? Tell that to my clients. Sure there are hoops I can jumps through to workaround this – but I’d sure rather just open RAW files in Lightroom or Camera Raw. For me, this is crippling and means I still grab my Canon cameras for anything important… For the next few week? Months? I understand this may just be the nature of the… Read more »
Just batch process with stand-alone Adobe DNG Converter. No need to wait, and this really isn’t a significant obstacle.
Hi do you have any idea if an external hot shoe mounted flash will fire at the 12fps on a low setting? Thanks! :)
John, I hear you about the bokeh being different from a full frame lens, and this is because in order to get the same framing we have to either step back or use a shorter focal length both of which increase the apparent depth of field. However, like I said above, I feel that the 100mm f/2.8 is not the same as a 200mm f/5.6. I don’t have math for you on this, but after using it I really think it’s not simple math, and I think the reason is that these lenses are not just repurposed 35mm lenses like… Read more »
On the matter of the “light art” photo above… With the LR update which includes the ability to process raw files from the GH4, I am still unable to remove the noise in my long-exposure shots. I get something very similar to the “light art” photo above. While I think the photo is excellent in artistic terms, the noise is clearly unacceptable – and LR is not taking care of it. I suspect LR is looking for more random patterns. Upon closer inspection of my long-exposure photos, I’ve recognized this noise as “stuck” or “dead” or “hot” pixels because the… Read more »
Just curious if anyone has tested their GH4 on long-exposure shots to see if they have the “stuck” “dead” or “hot” pixel issue like the one visible in the “light art” photo included in this article.
I shot long exposure timelapse and didn’t see any issues.
Thanks for your reply. Can you let me know if you were shooting RAW and looked closely to see if there were any “stuck” pixels? Also, can you confirm that your long-exposure shots were 10 seconds or longer? Thanks again!
Yes Raw
Saw No Stuck Pixels
20-45 second exposures
No In Camera Noise Reduction… all post
Thanks again for confirming. I guess I have simply had very bad luck with the 3 GH4s I have gone through. I suppose I’ll pursue getting it replaced a 4th time.
This is good! My GH3 develops hot pixels in any exposure longer than 10-20 seconds. Ruined a lot of otherwise nice night shots. (It wasn’t just a few pixels, but dozens and dozens. Waaaay to time-consuming to remove all of them.) Next stop, GH4 (or GH5?)
Thanks for the comment. Unfortunately, the pixel refresh option is not working for me. My GH4 seems to have no fix for this currently. I’m very concerned and seeking help from Panasonic. I’m on my 3rd replacement unit and the issue is not fixed yet.
(This got dropped from my previous post above):
The “pixel refresh” does a perfect job of restoring the pixels, but of course this is after the photo has been taken.
A great write up, thanks for taking the time.
I’ve sold ALL my Canon gear – 5DMarkIII, 1.2L lenses, everything.
Going Micro Four Thirds all the way.
Just loving how light my gear is now and the clarity in my video footage, wow.
i echo shaheed’s request. been researching what trigger/receiver to get and the cowboys sound great, but there are different types and it seems some triggers simply don’t work properly with panasonic, so would love to know the exact spec of yours.
Thanks for this great review! I’m wondering which flash trigger/receiver setup you use that works with the GH4? I have a GH4 and a Yongnuo 565ex flash and am looking to purchase a compatible set of transmitter and receiver. Thanks in advance!
Shaheed, I shoot regularly with the Cowboy Studios triggers from Amazon.com. They are very inexpensive, and are simply blind triggers. I’m investigating the speedlights from Panasonic, and I understand Phottix has some good triggers, as well.