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Martin Bailey Interview

February 2, 2009

Martin Bailey is a British nature photographer living in Japan. If that doesn’t get you interested in this interview, nothing will. Martin was kind enough to allow an interview for this month’s Photographer close up on TWIPPHOTO.COM.

1 – Scott: Please tell me how and when you got into photography.

[Martin Bailey] My induction into photography was a long process. My earliest photographic experience was with a Polaroid camera that Dad bought when I was around 7 or 8 years old. It disappeared from our house pretty quickly though when he realized how expensive the film was. I played with my friend’s Dad’s camera sometimes, and he let me shoot the odd frame, which was a real kick. I then had a number of basically plastic toy cameras over the years, which I enjoyed shooting with, but we didn’t have a lot of money, and so the developing costs held me back a lot. In my teens I remember asking my Mum if I could paint our bathroom black and find some way of sealing up the windows when necessary so that I could make my own darkroom. You can imagine that this conversation didn’t progress very far.

I started to really become interested in photography in my early twenties, when I started to go hiking in the hills of Derbyshire and the Lake District in England, and shot a lot of landscape images. I had a car by this time, and was earning enough to have film developed, but I was still using a plastic pretty much disposable camera, that I just kept in my jacket pocket looking for the right moment.

Then I moved to Japan when I was twenty four. With the beautiful scenery and a whole new eye opening culture to shoot, I got my first SLR, a Canon EOS 630, and a few lenses. Knowing that I’d gotten interested in photography, my brother sent me books on photographic techniques and composition, that I devoured. I never asked why he’d been so perceptive to do that. He’s not a photographer himself, but I guess he liked the odd 5×7 I started sending back to the UK. I’m greatly indebted to him for this foresight.

2 – Scott: What is your favorite photographic location or subject?

[Martin Bailey] Hokkaido, the north island of Japan. I travel there at least once a year, sometimes more, to shoot the wildlife and landscapes of this majestic island. I’m doing my second Workshop there in February 2009. I’ll be taking photographer’s from around the world to Hokkaido for a photography workshop. This year the trip is going to be nine full days of wildlife and landscape photography in a winter wonderland.

3 – Scott: Can you recall the first photograph you made that caused you to think WOW – that’s a good shot and if so, what was it?

[Martin Bailey] This was a photo I shot on my way down from the summit of Mount Fuji. I had naively thought that the decent was going to be uneventful, and had exposed all but one frame of the film that I had with me, when I saw a couple of westerners hugging under a Torii, which is a
Shinto Gate, gazing from their vantage point out across a sea of clouds. I’d placed the sun behind one of the horizontal bars of the gate, and allowed the couple and other people in the foreground to fall into silhouette. I was just so pleased with the results, and with the fact that I had one frame
left to shoot this with.

4 – Scott: Do you have any formal training in photography or a related field and do you think that’s important for aspiring serious photographers?

[Martin Bailey] I don’t have any formal training, but that’s not to say that
I don’t think it’s important. I think it depends on what type of person you
are. Some people need to be taught formally to really get something, and
others don’t. I consider myself to be one of the latter.
I learn quickly, and I learn best by throwing myself into something. I never
do anything by halves. When I decide to do something, it gets all my
attention. I have and still do spend a lot of time studying about the
science and techniques of photography, as well as the art and aesthetics. I
consider myself an expert in this field, as do many people that have listen
to my Podcast or attend my workshops.

5 – Scott: Are you more of a technical or an artistic photographer?

[Martin Bailey] I’d say both. Literally 50/50. I remain both left and right
brained when shooting, and I think it shows in the technical accuracy and
the artistic sensitivity of my work.

6 – Scott: Which photographers if any influenced your work?

[Martin Bailey] I’m not conscious of having been influenced by anyone as
such, but I look at a lot of photography. It’s one of my ways of staying
connected. I imagine the work of these photographers has found its way
subconsciously back into my work. The first photographer who’s photographs I
remember being in awe of is Toshinobu Takeuchi, a Japanese Landscape
photographer. I also had the pleasure of spending time with Hiroshi Yokoyama
in Hokkaido, along with Yoshiaki Kobayashi, who’s workshops I have attended
a number of times. Yokoyama-sensei’s photography has a sensitivity that I
admire and he has such a wonderful personality.

I also totally admire Art Wolfe, not just his nature photography, but
because he isn’t bound by any predefined photographic genres. Although
predominantly known as a nature photographer, Art will turn his lens to
anything that excites him, and this is how I think it should be. Art also of
course is proof of the importance of travel. People will say that there are
photographic opportunities everywhere, and there often are, to some extent,
but you can’t shoot Japanese Red-Crowned Cranes in downtown Tokyo. You have
to go where the subjects or scenes that you seek to photograph are, and I
think Art helps people to understand that, at the same time as showing us
stunning photography.

7 – Scott: What has been the most interesting or surprising thing to you about how people react to photography?

[Martin Bailey] Tears. When my wife sits with me and watches a slideshow of
my images, on occasion she cries. She’s also my first and most honest
critic, for which I’m very grateful, but at first I was very surprised by
this reaction. I consider these tears to be the highest praise I receive for
my work. There are few other art forms that can throw the viewer into an
emotional state as quickly as photography. Maybe that’s because we shoot
most often just a tiny slice of time. A fraction of a second. When the
viewer gets it, they are thrown into an emotional state in just as short a
space of time. This is very powerful.

8 – Scott: How would you describe your style of photography?

[Martin Bailey] This is tough. I should have a quick snappy answer, but I
don’t. I’ve started to be known as a “Master of Bokeh”. Very shallow depth
of field is becoming my “signature style”. I use my lenses wide open or
close to it for much of my work, because I love the dreamy feel and
atmosphere that the out of focus areas add to my images. I am very conscious
of where the blotches of colour or tonal contrast fall within my bokeh, and
this shows in much of my work.

9 – Scott: How do you go about “seeing” a photograph?

[Martin Bailey] Once I’m where my intended subject matter is located, I do
two things to “see” where the photographs are within the scene. First, I
look for special light, illuminating something special. Filtered light
pouring through the gaps in trees or falling on the scene at a certain
angle. Diffused light from an overcast sky, or light from a clear sky in the
minutes after the sun has dropped behind mountains or some other obstacle,
can be very special.

Once I have found the light, the second step is to frame a part of the
scene. This of course means selecting a focal length that will crop,
essentially editing out, anything that doesn’t add something to the image or
even detracts from the main subject. I usually start by surveying the scene by
eye, but then when I have an idea of how much or how little of the scene I
want to include, I select a lens, and start to frame and compose the shot
through the finder. I can be looking at a larger scene that doesn’t look
that great, but trusting my eye I look through the viewfinder, and a whole
new world just pops out at me, waiting to be photographed.

10 – Scott: Of your many projects, which is your favorite and why?

[Martin Bailey] Wow! This is another tough one… I’d have to say that it is
photographing the Red-Crowned Cranes in Hokkaido. The reason this is my
favourite, is because it’s so damned hard to complete as a project. There
are so many variables that prevent you from getting really good shots
easily. The weather is the first. You need low temperatures for mist on the
river, or frost on the trees. You need just the right temperature and angle
of light to catch the breath of the birds bellowing out of their mouths. You
can have the right conditions, but then when they do the dance and the
honking, just as you are about to get the photo of your dreams, another
crane walks in front of your lens and snatches the shot from you. I’ve
travelled to the right place before dawn morning after morning, and I’ve
stood out of the snow for days at a time, looking for the right conditions,
and I’ve shot thousands of photographs of these beautiful birds, but still
only have a handful that I’m really happy with. I think the project to get a
lot of good quality images of these birds, enough to do a book say, is going
to take me back to Hokkaido again and again, probably turning into a life
work. That has to be a good thing.

11 – Scott: Is there any photographic discipline that you wish you knew more about?

[Martin Bailey] I would have loved to have done my own developing and
printing in a dark room. I’m never going to get into that now, but I think
that would have helped me in some way, even in the digital age. At the very
least, I think it would have been a nice memory to get all nostalgic about.

12 – Scott: After all these years as a photographer/teacher and author, do you ever find it hard to remain passionate about your work?

[Martin Bailey] Nope. Being incredibly busy I sometimes find that my energy
levels drop so low, that I can’t shoot as often as I’d like, but even when
I’m not actively shooting, I am doing something photography related. My
passion for photography remains at boiling point every waking minute.

13 – Scott: Everyone will ask me why I didn’t ask this question if I don’t – so here goes – What cameras/lenses do you use and why?

[Martin Bailey] My main camera is a Canon EOS 1Ds Mark III, and I have a 5D
that I use as a second body when necessary, usually for wildlife work. As I
like to shoot wide open with lots of bokeh, I’ve invested a lot in bright
lenses, owning 10 primes and 3 zoom lenses. I have from 14mm to 300mm
covered at F2.8 or wider, and a 600mm F4 for wildlife, though I have shot
landscapes with the 600mm when the location requires.

I should mention too that I swear by Gitzo tripods and Really Right Stuff
ball-heads. The Gitzo Carbon 6X range of tripods are amazingly sturdy and
easy to use. The Really Right Stuff BH-55 is not only the best ball-head
I’ve used to date, it is a beautiful piece of engineering.

14 – Scott: What’s the biggest mistake you made when you first started out as a photographer?

[Martin Bailey] For a number of years, I was very narrow minded when it came
to retouching photos. I still spend a lot of time getting it right in
camera. I find the right angle or lens to exclude distracting elements, and
I will walk away from a scene that is filled with power lines, rather than
remove it later in Photoshop. There are however times when the shot is too
good to pass up, and could be great, if I just removed the odd annoying
element. I passed up a lot of these over the years, and I wish I hadn’t. If
you are making art, not straight documentary shots, then go for it. I don’t
do this much, and I personally still never do composites, even just as art,
but I learned to not get so hung up about removing the odd annoyance every
once in a while if it can make an image better.

15 – Would you like to give any final words of advice to photographers who want to improve their photography?

[Martin Bailey] Absolutely — here’re ten!
1. Get closer, it will improve 90% of your shots.
2. Use a tripod unless there’s a good reason not to.
3. Keep your eye on your bokeh. Just because it isn’t in focus it doesn’t
mean it doesn’t matter.
4. Look for the right light and use it.
5. Travel. Very few people live in places where everything is on your
doorstep.
6. Pixels do count. It’s how the details are recorded.
7. Get up early. It’s beautiful just before dawn.
8. Don’t be a fair weather shooter. Overcast skies are big diffusers. Rain
saturates colours as well as yourself. Harsh conditions make dramatic images.
9. Print your work as often and as big if possible. It not only feels great
to hold a quality print, but it shows up flaws in your images that aren’t
always obvious on screen.
10. It’s easy to find reasons not to do something, or for why something
didn’t go as well as you’d hoped. At the end of the day though, it’s all
down to you. You make your own success.

To find out more about Martin, visit his website: http://www.martinbaileyphotography.com/

For information on Martin’s workshops visit: http://www.mbpworkshops.com/

Leave a Comment
  1. February 2, 2009 1:31 pm

    Thanks for the interview, Scott. I love Martin’s podcast. It’s a model I think more photography podcasts should aspire to. It’s a great presentation of images along with the background information and theory, with a nice mix of technical and philosophical chatter. I can honestly say there are lessons I’ve learned from his podcast that I’ve directly applied to my own nature photography, meager though it may be.

  2. February 2, 2009 1:31 pm

    Thanks for the interview, Scott. I love Martin’s podcast. It’s a model I think more photography podcasts should aspire to. It’s a great presentation of images along with the background information and theory, with a nice mix of technical and philosophical chatter. I can honestly say there are lessons I’ve learned from his podcast that I’ve directly applied to my own nature photography, meager though it may be.

  3. February 2, 2009 2:12 pm

    A great interview – I’m a long listener to Martin’s podcast and he’s a fantastic photographer – with not just skills but the artistic vision.

  4. February 2, 2009 2:12 pm

    A great interview – I’m a long listener to Martin’s podcast and he’s a fantastic photographer – with not just skills but the artistic vision.

  5. February 2, 2009 3:10 pm

    Everyone should check out Martins Podcast, I’ve been listening since his last trip to India, and it’s great, a good mix of art and tech.

  6. February 2, 2009 3:10 pm

    Everyone should check out Martins Podcast, I’ve been listening since his last trip to India, and it’s great, a good mix of art and tech.

  7. Kate permalink
    February 2, 2009 3:16 pm

    I just watched Martins Portfolio The Nature of Japan. Absolutely amazing and totally inspirational!

  8. Kate permalink
    February 2, 2009 3:16 pm

    I just watched Martins Portfolio The Nature of Japan. Absolutely amazing and totally inspirational!

  9. February 2, 2009 3:56 pm

    Scott,
    Great questions and great answers. I would love to see more of these interviews.
    Thanks,
    mh

  10. February 2, 2009 3:56 pm

    Scott,
    Great questions and great answers. I would love to see more of these interviews.
    Thanks,
    mh

  11. February 2, 2009 4:27 pm

    I too am a Huge fan of Martin’s Podcasts and Photography. If you are at all interested in Nature Photography it is definitely worth a listen. For those starting out, it is an excellent resource because he usually goes over his exposure and equipment choices and why he used them and what effect it gives. Might I also recommend his podcasts reviewing his images in India. Those are my favorite.

  12. February 2, 2009 4:27 pm

    I too am a Huge fan of Martin’s Podcasts and Photography. If you are at all interested in Nature Photography it is definitely worth a listen. For those starting out, it is an excellent resource because he usually goes over his exposure and equipment choices and why he used them and what effect it gives. Might I also recommend his podcasts reviewing his images in India. Those are my favorite.

  13. Paul permalink
    February 2, 2009 7:18 pm

    Fantastic interview Scott. Love the questions and loved the responses. If I where a wealthy man I’d be on the of Martins workshop in a flash. Martin is a great photographer and a great communicator of his photographic passion. Thank Scott.

  14. Paul permalink
    February 2, 2009 7:18 pm

    Fantastic interview Scott. Love the questions and loved the responses. If I where a wealthy man I’d be on the of Martins workshop in a flash. Martin is a great photographer and a great communicator of his photographic passion. Thank Scott.

  15. Jerry permalink
    February 2, 2009 7:28 pm

    I have not read the interview yet but I know its going to be good. I been listening to Martin since about the 25 show and went back to listen to them all. His podcast is one of the few that I have a copy of every one. You guys should get him on the podcast for a show…

  16. Jerry permalink
    February 2, 2009 7:28 pm

    I have not read the interview yet but I know its going to be good. I been listening to Martin since about the 25 show and went back to listen to them all. His podcast is one of the few that I have a copy of every one. You guys should get him on the podcast for a show…

  17. February 2, 2009 9:36 pm

    Ah, worlds collide! I’ve been listening to Martin longer than TWiP! Great interview!

  18. February 2, 2009 9:36 pm

    Ah, worlds collide! I’ve been listening to Martin longer than TWiP! Great interview!

  19. February 3, 2009 6:02 am

    Cool. He has a good podcast for learning from, although not so good in the car as you can’t help but try and glance at the photos being discussed.

  20. February 3, 2009 6:02 am

    Cool. He has a good podcast for learning from, although not so good in the car as you can’t help but try and glance at the photos being discussed.

  21. February 3, 2009 7:10 am

    Great interview! I’ve been listening and watching Martin’s podcast for about the same length of time as TWIP. Love ‘em both!

  22. February 3, 2009 7:10 am

    Great interview! I’ve been listening and watching Martin’s podcast for about the same length of time as TWIP. Love ‘em both!

  23. February 3, 2009 8:14 am

    Martin Bailey Photography and TWIP are the only two photog podcasts I listen to every week. If you love the act of shooting, you will love Martin’s podcast. Easily found on iTunes. Great interview Scott!

  24. February 3, 2009 8:14 am

    Martin Bailey Photography and TWIP are the only two photog podcasts I listen to every week. If you love the act of shooting, you will love Martin’s podcast. Easily found on iTunes. Great interview Scott!

  25. February 3, 2009 10:44 am

    The interview made for a very good read. I wish I had found out about Martin Baily earlier while I had more time in Japan left. Oh well.

    I look forward to listening to his highly recommended podcast.

    I checked prices on his recommended tripod and ball head. I’ll have to put those on the wish list for awhile.

  26. February 3, 2009 10:44 am

    The interview made for a very good read. I wish I had found out about Martin Baily earlier while I had more time in Japan left. Oh well.

    I look forward to listening to his highly recommended podcast.

    I checked prices on his recommended tripod and ball head. I’ll have to put those on the wish list for awhile.

  27. mrkgoo permalink
    February 3, 2009 2:52 pm

    I’m going to go download some podcasts.

  28. February 4, 2009 6:00 am

    Have listened to each and every one of Martins podcasts, some of them a number of times. Martin is a dedicated and talented photographer who gives so much back.

    Thanks for the interview and also the additional exposure Martin deserves.

    If it was not for the dollar I would be in Hokkaido right now!

  29. February 4, 2009 6:00 am

    Have listened to each and every one of Martins podcasts, some of them a number of times. Martin is a dedicated and talented photographer who gives so much back.

    Thanks for the interview and also the additional exposure Martin deserves.

    If it was not for the dollar I would be in Hokkaido right now!

  30. mikeb permalink
    February 4, 2009 7:15 am

    I am an avid listener and learner from Martins podcasts & website- he is an inspiration
    and has helped me to improve my photography 1000 % – thank you Martin.

    Mike

  31. mikeb permalink
    February 4, 2009 7:15 am

    I am an avid listener and learner from Martins podcasts & website- he is an inspiration
    and has helped me to improve my photography 1000 % – thank you Martin.

    Mike

  32. February 4, 2009 10:58 pm

    Over time I store up memories of iconic media personalities. These voices, personalities and/or their messages are important to me as I might find them comforting, challenging or influential in one way or another. Walter Cronkite’s voice and temper had a huge influence on me in my youth. Phil Liggett’s return every summer as he covers bicycle racing is transfixing to me and I dare not think of a summer without his visit on the television.

    I’m finding that Martin Bailey is having this effect on me as well. I’d call it his computer-side manner that I’ve become familiar and very comfortable with over the last two years. No other podcast makes me relax and be so receptive to it’s content and message. I wrote him two years ago to explain that he and his podcast were a good companion as I was painting the house. I have to confess that I spent more and more time watching his podcasts and less time painting. Maybe I’ll finish this summer.

  33. February 4, 2009 10:58 pm

    Over time I store up memories of iconic media personalities. These voices, personalities and/or their messages are important to me as I might find them comforting, challenging or influential in one way or another. Walter Cronkite’s voice and temper had a huge influence on me in my youth. Phil Liggett’s return every summer as he covers bicycle racing is transfixing to me and I dare not think of a summer without his visit on the television.

    I’m finding that Martin Bailey is having this effect on me as well. I’d call it his computer-side manner that I’ve become familiar and very comfortable with over the last two years. No other podcast makes me relax and be so receptive to it’s content and message. I wrote him two years ago to explain that he and his podcast were a good companion as I was painting the house. I have to confess that I spent more and more time watching his podcasts and less time painting. Maybe I’ll finish this summer.

  34. February 9, 2009 5:53 pm

    Thanks for a great interview, Scott.

    Like others who have posted before me, I’ve spent the last five months listening to all of Martin’s archived podcasts. He has a unique ability to communicate concepts — whether technical or artistic — with an ease and clarity that bely their complexity. I’ve found that even when Martin discusses familiar topics I always come away with something that will help me improve my own photography.

    It’s not for nothing that many of these posts suggest a personal admiration for Martin as well. As good a photographer or a teacher as he may be, he seems an even better person — warm, generous, and uncommonly open with his own thoughts and feelings. I would be willing to bet that most of his listeners think of him as a friend even though they may have never actually communicated with him.

    For anyone who has not yet given Martin a listen, give him a try. If you’re going back to sample some of his earlier episodes, be aware that it isn’t until around episode 30 (if memory serves) that his podcast becomes “enhanced” — i.e., the images that he discusses appear on your iPod’s screen.

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