Review by Conrad J. Obregon
I’ve used Epson printers for printing photos for several years and have been extremely pleased with the quality of color prints that come from the Epson machines. The main question I had in using the 2880 was whether the machine would be better than my Epson 2400 photo printer. I use the current versions of Lightroom or Photoshop for my printing, and I’ve found that if your monitor is of good quality and properly calibrated, the photos that the Epson printers produce are almost indistinguishable from what you see on the monitor. That’s true up to the 13 by 19-inch images that you can print with both the 2400 and the 2800. (To get a good picture, you do need to shot with a good image. I’ve always used images of at least 10 megapixels, whether they come from a film scanner or a digital SLR camera.) The main claim for improvement for this machine is the presence of an additional ink cartridge, vivid magenta.
I set up the printer in accordance with the quick start guide and CD containing drivers that was included. (You’ll need a USB cable with a type B connector.) I spent the most set-up time just opening the little plastic bags that contain the ink cartridges and installing the cartridges. I had a choice of installing matte black or photo black inks. I installed the photo black because that’s the ink suggested for the papers that I regularly use. Be warned that anytime you switch from one black to the other you use a significant amount of ink because of purging and refilling the lines. I followed the directions and the new printer was up and running in less than 15 minutes. Be sure to install the ICC profiles available on line from Epson if you expect the best print results. You can go to the site for the profiles from the install disk.
I made a classic mistake in printing my first picture because the Epson Properties Panel is changed from the 2400, that is, I left Epson printer control on. Then in the Photoshop CS4 print menu, I selected “Photoshop Manages Color”. The result was an over saturated print. I went back to the page setup menu and selected Mode Setup, Custom, Off. Now when I printed, my image looked like the monitor, or as close as I could get, given the inherent differences between subtractive color and additive color.
I printed the exact same images on Epson Premium Glossy and Epson Premium Semi-matte on both my 2400 and 2880 printers. Most of the duplicate prints were indistinguishable to me, although there may have been just the slightest bit more snappiness to images that featured a lot of magenta, but it was certainly not anything noticeable. I showed nine people the duplicate images and most could not see any difference. Three people claimed they could see differences, but had no preferences between the prints.
I also tried out the printers on a special stock I use for cards. This is a heavily textured paper, similar to matte paper. On the 2400, I set the Epson properties menu to “Premium Presentation Paper” and also the Photoshop print menu to Premium Presentation Paper. I used the photo black ink rather than the matte ink which resulted in a print that seemed to pop a little more than that using the matte black ink. The 2880 properties menu won’t let you select this profile when photo black is installed. That shouldn’t make a difference if you are having PS control the printing (I think) but it’s my impression that the result is a slightly more subdued, though still quite lovely, picture. The difference may be due to the new profiles.
The movement of the controls to the top of the 2880 printer is an inconvenience for me, since I keep the printer at almost eye level when I’m sitting down. I’ve also managed to turn the new printer on accidentally by brushing the top-mounted controls.
The 2880 printer is also capable of printing on CDs and DVDs. I did not test this facility.
The bottom line is that if you want a photo printer that prints papers up to 13 by 19 the Epson 2880 will not disappoint you. On the other hand, if you already have an Epson R2400 printer, unless your images usually have a large amount of magenta or you need to print on CDs or DVDs, you probably won’t find a significant advantage in upgrading.
The Epson R2880
Interesting albeit a bit pricey for a user like me.
It would be really interesting to have a similar review of a more moderately priced product.
Great show, blog and images!
Regards from Denmark
Interesting albeit a bit pricey for a user like me.
It would be really interesting to have a similar review of a more moderately priced product.
Great show, blog and images!
Regards from Denmark
Peter, I have been using the Epson 1400, also a 13 x 19 printer, for over a year now and although it uses the Claria Hi-Definition, dye-based inkset, I think it does a great job. I’m certain that prints from the 2880 are better, but for $179 (currently, after rebates & discounts), you might want to check it out.
Peter, I have been using the Epson 1400, also a 13 x 19 printer, for over a year now and although it uses the Claria Hi-Definition, dye-based inkset, I think it does a great job. I’m certain that prints from the 2880 are better, but for $179 (currently, after rebates & discounts), you might want to check it out.
Thanks for the review. I was thinking about getting one of these. I haven’t decided yet but this certainly helps.
Thanks for the review. I was thinking about getting one of these. I haven’t decided yet but this certainly helps.
Does anyone know if these printers accept large transparencies? I’m a screen printer.
Does anyone know if these printers accept large transparencies? I’m a screen printer.
Like Skip above, I looked at and bought the 1400. I bought it because it was one of Andrew Darlow’s recommendations (see episode 50), bought $150 /w free shipping at Epson’s refurbished store. So far, I’m pretty happy with it. It’s their least expensive 13×19 printer, the only down side is that there is no paper tray or paper cartridge, it’s manual feed or the hopper, which I close to help control dust. Also, the CD printing does work pretty well in terms of image quality, but their CD printing app is a lot clunkier than Canon’s CD printing app, and the printing itself is slower. I don’t regret the purchase though.
Like Skip above, I looked at and bought the 1400. I bought it because it was one of Andrew Darlow’s recommendations (see episode 50), bought $150 /w free shipping at Epson’s refurbished store. So far, I’m pretty happy with it. It’s their least expensive 13×19 printer, the only down side is that there is no paper tray or paper cartridge, it’s manual feed or the hopper, which I close to help control dust. Also, the CD printing does work pretty well in terms of image quality, but their CD printing app is a lot clunkier than Canon’s CD printing app, and the printing itself is slower. I don’t regret the purchase though.
@Robert From what I can see only the Stylus Pro series (4880 and above) accept transparencies on rolls – http://tinyurl.com/5l3ns7 – you can see the list of media types the R2880 can handle here…http://tinyurl.com/5amodd
@Robert From what I can see only the Stylus Pro series (4880 and above) accept transparencies on rolls – http://tinyurl.com/5l3ns7 – you can see the list of media types the R2880 can handle here…http://tinyurl.com/5amodd
@Scott Why don’t you print from Aperture? I noticed you said Lightroom and Photoshop. Do you find the print outcomes better from these two services?
@Scott Why don’t you print from Aperture? I noticed you said Lightroom and Photoshop. Do you find the print outcomes better from these two services?
@altdoc I do print from Aperture. Conrad wrote this review.
@altdoc I do print from Aperture. Conrad wrote this review.
Doug Thank you so much.
Doug Thank you so much.
I just got this printer 2 days ago. This is my first pigment ink printer. I’m still trying to find the best settings for my photos. But print quality is excellent. I print a lot of black and whites and the print quality is THE best that I have seen from any inkjet. I too had some confusions initially with color management settings. Especially it really doesn’t help when the manual and other Epson online resources don’t exactly match up. One flaw is that the printer goes through ink worse than a Hummer goes through a tank of gas. It was even more frustrating to find out that none of the retail stores had the inks in stock. I wish that the ink tanks were a bit larger so you could get more than 10 prints! But I love the results. I’ll definitely have a lot of fun printing.
I just got this printer 2 days ago. This is my first pigment ink printer. I’m still trying to find the best settings for my photos. But print quality is excellent. I print a lot of black and whites and the print quality is THE best that I have seen from any inkjet. I too had some confusions initially with color management settings. Especially it really doesn’t help when the manual and other Epson online resources don’t exactly match up. One flaw is that the printer goes through ink worse than a Hummer goes through a tank of gas. It was even more frustrating to find out that none of the retail stores had the inks in stock. I wish that the ink tanks were a bit larger so you could get more than 10 prints! But I love the results. I’ll definitely have a lot of fun printing.
Years ago while working as a marketing rep I was approaced by an Epson Rep who was extolling the benefits of Epson over HP in quality. I watched and listed to his spill and was very impressed. Epson makes outstanding products. The problem is in the cost to operate.
Most consumers are completely unaware of the lawsuits a few years back claiming Epson INTENITIONALLY set their cartridges to display EMPTY when in fact they still had ink in them. That’s a truly unethical way to treat consumers. Epson had to pay up on the practice and hopefully it is no longer taking place.
That soured me plenty on Epson. I use another brand for my printing needs due to the cost, but I would definitely agree the quality of the output is outstanding.
Epson is also very aggressive in persuing 3rd party ink companies and it’s much harder to find “compatible” cartridges that are worth owning. If you use Epson you really should by the OEM product.
Years ago while working as a marketing rep I was approaced by an Epson Rep who was extolling the benefits of Epson over HP in quality. I watched and listed to his spill and was very impressed. Epson makes outstanding products. The problem is in the cost to operate.
Most consumers are completely unaware of the lawsuits a few years back claiming Epson INTENITIONALLY set their cartridges to display EMPTY when in fact they still had ink in them. That’s a truly unethical way to treat consumers. Epson had to pay up on the practice and hopefully it is no longer taking place.
That soured me plenty on Epson. I use another brand for my printing needs due to the cost, but I would definitely agree the quality of the output is outstanding.
Epson is also very aggressive in persuing 3rd party ink companies and it’s much harder to find “compatible” cartridges that are worth owning. If you use Epson you really should by the OEM product.